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CB500T kickstarter moves and the engine stays still

On this 1976 CB500T the kickstarter pedal moved and there was no compression thump, like a starter cord that is not catching. The cause was not isolated.

The pedal is moving. The crank may not be. On this 1976 CB500T a friend pushed the kickstarter. The pedal went down and there was no compression thump under it. The description at the time was a lawnmower cord that is not catching. Which part failed to catch was not found. The bike was later started on that same kickstarter once ignition work was underway, so this is the symptom as it showed up, not a teardown.

A kick with nothing behind it

TryIf the pedal then thumpsIf it still swings free
Clutch lever fully released, transmission in neutralThe lever was the disconnectThe kick gear is the suspect
A short kick, not a stampYou can feel the engineStamping a free pedal only rounds the gear
The electric starter, separatelyThe crank can be turned that wayA whirr with no cam movement is the sprag clutch

Release the clutch lever all the way. On these Hondas a lever pulled in opens the drive between the kickstarter and the crank, and the pedal goes down like a decoy. Neutral, kill switch on Run, and a deliberate kick. Compression is a rising resistance and a thump, not a whistle of gears.

If the lever is out and the pedal is still empty, stop kicking it. A ratchet that is skipping gets worse every time it skips. That mechanism is a parts-fiche job, the kick gear and its spring, from a Honda twin supplier. There is no Amazon gear on this page. A kit that lists every SOHC Honda of the decade is the wrong basket.

The electric starter that spins without the engine is written up separately, because it is the sprag clutch. Once a kick does turn the engine and it still will not fire, the pedal is innocent. Spark and fuel are the coil and the condenser connector.

Frequently asked questions

Why does a CB500T kickstarter pedal move without turning the engine?
On this bike the pedal swung through with no compression, the way a pull cord feels when it is not engaged. Two ordinary causes are the clutch lever held in, which disconnects the kick from the crank on these transmissions, and a worn kick gear that no longer catches. This bike's cause was not isolated.
Is that the same failure as the electric starter spinning free?
No. A whirring starter motor that does not turn the crank is the one-way starter clutch. The kickstarter is a pedal, a gear, and the clutch. They can both fail to turn the engine and still be different parts.
What if the kick does have compression and the engine still will not start?
Then the kick mechanism is doing its job. Look at spark and fuel. On this bike that became the coils, the condenser connector, and the black/white feed to the coils.

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